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Post by sparacus on Sept 23, 2012 12:38:57 GMT -5
Completely horrifying. Expect wafer-thin plots, rushed resolutions and cameos from Dermot O'Leary etc etc
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Post by lemonbloodycola on Sept 23, 2012 13:30:11 GMT -5
I don't think he's all that bad.. kinda hit and miss BUT you need more than a good writer to be in creative control of Doctor Who and make it work.. you need a touch of genius and maverick originality. (as well as the graft and craft and blah that make up 95% of the job, of course) to me whatever their pros and cons (there's a lot of the latter for both) the only New Who writers to display that "magic" are RTD, Moffat... and Cornell.. though I feel he'll never get the gig due to his relative lack of TV experience.
Going on CV alone Chibnall is the most "qualified" to take over... Toby Whithouse is preferable but even as a big fan of Being Human I'm not even convinced he has that special quality from his Who work so far.
Again, it would never happen but my other fantasy land pick is Jack Thorne (The Fades, This Is England 86/88, Skins) he has that RTD, Moffat magic and originality.
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Post by youthofoz on Sept 23, 2012 17:55:42 GMT -5
I frankly welcome this idea. True, season one Torchwood episodes seem to have been written by a crack-fueled baboon suffering chronic depression, but his DW episodes have been universally above average - in the year alone he's done three stories and shown he can tackle the off-the-wall-insanity of the Moffatverse as well as a perfect evocation of the RTD era. When Moffat himself tried that in The Beast Below, he considered it an unmittigated disaster.
Frankly though, ANYONE except Mark Gatiss. His stories get worse and worse, more sexist and more homophobic each time... it's no coincidence the Idiot's Lantern was his last script for RTD when it's "comedy" ending was Tommy sexually assaulting the Tenth Doctor, who screamed and punched his lights out while Rose laughed cruelly. Sickening.
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Post by sparacus on Sept 25, 2012 14:40:01 GMT -5
Chibnall's stories tend to have rushed and simplistic resolutions. Also'Countrycide' is one of the worst Torchwood stories.
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Post by youthofoz on Sept 25, 2012 18:43:30 GMT -5
No, that honor goes to Something Borrowed.
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Post by aspadistra on Sept 26, 2012 16:13:29 GMT -5
I actually liked Countrycide, but I've been told that it's an example of plagiarism. I reckon that Cyberwoman would be hilarious if viewed when drunk.
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Post by youthofoz on Sept 26, 2012 18:29:33 GMT -5
Oh, definitely. A woman in a tinfoil bikini having a fist fight with a pterodactyl. Called Myfanwy. And both covered in BBQ sauce.
Ed Wood couldn't come up with stuff like that...
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Post by cameronjmason on Sept 27, 2012 2:54:46 GMT -5
No, that honor goes to Something Borrowed. The thing that annoys me most about Something Borrowed is that it would have worked as a full on comedy episode, but instead it's like the production team chickened out at the last minute and tacked on some dramatic story threads. Heck, even referencing Jack's wedding could have fitted in: Jack: "Did I ever tell you about my wedding day?" Gwen: "I'll bet you looked radiant in white." Jack: "Upstaged the bride, not that she minded..." Cameron |
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Post by youthofoz on Sept 27, 2012 3:10:25 GMT -5
Yes. Mind you, effectively starting an episode with Gwen being raped killed the "comedy" vibe...
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Post by cameronjmason on Sept 27, 2012 22:25:16 GMT -5
Yes. Mind you, effectively starting an episode with Gwen being raped killed the "comedy" vibe... There are ways around that, just take a bit of tinkering with the opening scenes - Gwen corners the alien, doesn't know the species, alien asks Gwen to look after something for her, Gwen says yes, embryo is implanted, then Jack turns up to reveal the grisly truth, alien gets away. Cameron |
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Post by youthofoz on Sept 28, 2012 2:55:51 GMT -5
I'm not saying it couldn't have worked.
Just that it didn't.
Imagine if the plot was reversed and Jack nuked Gwen after she saw two self-absorbed aliens disintegrate unborn baby Anwen in the womb.
Oh, what larks! Larks, I say!
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Post by lemonbloodycola on Sept 28, 2012 6:46:21 GMT -5
Remember this is Torchwood the show that featured "lovable rogue" and serial date rapist Owen Harper among the good guys.
I say this as a big RTD fan who doesn't mind Chibbers, but what the **** was everyone smoking in regards the first series of Torchwood?
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Post by youthofoz on Sept 28, 2012 10:45:56 GMT -5
Ice.
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Post by whazzup on Jan 21, 2013 4:08:09 GMT -5
It's like some horrible nightmare.
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